Village Idiot
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The 'Message" is spread into 700 languages...SO WHAT??? Big Deal!
by stuckinarut2 inyou know how the org goes on and on about how the "preaching work" takes place in so many languages by the website?.
they also trumpet the fact that witnesses are in "sooooo many lands and nations"....... so what!.
just because the message is spread far and wide, does not mean the content of the message is correct or of value.. take the example of coca-cola or mcdonalds.... these products are in nearly every nation around the world....but does that mean they are beneficial or healthy?
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I remember, back in the 1970s, having a collection of 60 some Truth books each in a different language. I believe there were over a 100 translations that the Watchtower had. I tossed them after my disfellowshipping. -
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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Cofty, thank you for the correction. There has been some confusion and a change of nomenclature regarding those names. -
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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Village Idiot
cofty:
"Why should we believe you rather than expert geneticists who can explain the specific differences that separate Homo neanderthalis from Homo sapien?"
Cofty, while Neandertal is different than us he can still be considered 'human' in a more general sense of the word. Again, the use of the word human is somewhat arbitrary but that is why scientists use the word "Hominid" to refer to the family tree of humanity.
Perry on the other hand doesn't seem to realize that Neandertal is different enough from us to support evolutionary thinking. And then there's Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo Antecessor and Homo Erectus which he doesn't bring up since they don't fit into the Creationist mold.
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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Village Idiot
Just as a note, the spelling Neanderthal has been changed to Neandertal without the "h". -
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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Village Idiot
It should be noted that there are 'apes' like Australopithecine that walk upright like the Hominids that are descended from them.
As far as humans being apes there has to be a line of separation drawn between the two like the line that distinguishes apes from monkeys. The cumulative differences between us and our ancestors from apes is too great to share a common term.
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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Village Idiot
LoveUniHateExams:
Homo Erectus, an ancestor to the Governing Body? - possibly the picture on the left is. I can now see where Brother Lett gets his facial expressions from.
But the picture on the right is the "mother" organization.
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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Village Idiot
Cofty: " Neanderthals had larger brain volumes than Homo sapiens."
Phizzy: "I remember reading that brain volume alone is not conclusive evidence for superior intelligence."
Although Neandertals had a larger cranium than Homo Sapiens that is not a sign of superior or even equal intelligence.
They actually had less of the frontal areas (where their skull slopes backwards) of the brain where fore planning originates. Also they had less cerebral cortex where general intelligence is to be found. Where they had more brain was to the rear of the skull in the occipital regions where vision is centered. Apparently he had more visual 'intelligence' than us.
That they were not as intelligent as us is shown by their tool making abilities and limitations. Their tools were more advanced than any other previous species but ours. We not only had a better tool kit, we had a tool kit that was improved throughout the duration of our species.
Neandertal on the other hand had a tool kit that stayed the same for 250,000 years without any advances throughout that time period. They also never made tools out of bone like Homo Sapiens did.
Another feature of Neandertals that would limit their knowledge was the fact that they seemed to have lived in groups of less than 25 members and were restricted to limited territories. Homo Sapiens traveled throughout larger territories in numbers approaching 100. The less people there are the less 'wisdom' there is to be passed down throughout the generations.
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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Village Idiot
As a person who is fascinated by Paleoanthropology and vaguely remembers JW creationism I seem to recall, don't remember where, the Watchtower saying that Homo Erectus was the drawing line between humans and 'apes'.
If that is so then it should be said that Homo Erectus was more primitive than Neandertal with a brain capacity 30% less than ours.
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Village Idiot
wannaexit, thank you.